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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11328</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamis -- great point...as we periodically present &quot;commuter profiles&quot;, only a couple have been women, and not for lack of trying to track down female commuters to offer THEIR unique perspectives.

Nicole or Joan, would YOU be interested in being profiled?!?  Because we&#039;d love to hear your side of things, too.  If so, drop me a line at ghostrider(over-there-at)bikecommuter(dot)com  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamis &#8212; great point&#8230;as we periodically present &#8220;commuter profiles&#8221;, only a couple have been women, and not for lack of trying to track down female commuters to offer THEIR unique perspectives.</p>
<p>Nicole or Joan, would YOU be interested in being profiled?!?  Because we&#8217;d love to hear your side of things, too.  If so, drop me a line at ghostrider(over-there-at)bikecommuter(dot)com  .</p>
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		<title>By: Jamis_Bater</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11325</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamis_Bater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Nicole to offend you. But you have to realize that you are the exception to the rule when it comes to MC readers. The magazine may be less of a droolfest of all things Haute Couture than say Vogue, but I&#039;d bet a poll of it&#039;s readers has maybe 0.5% as bike commuters. 

Shoot I gotta say that from my very circumstantial perspective a woman is the exception to the rule for bike commuters. I don&#039;t see very many, if any, on the road. The women I know personally that do bike to work are not your typical woman when it comes to hair, makeup, etc. I have a tough time trying to give pointers to my female coworkers simply because what to do with the hair is a big deal for them. I shave my head—so I&#039;m not much help. And when a man tries to suggest that a woman can be smell free and presentable even after a bike ride I usually get eye rolls and remarks like &quot;That&#039;s a man talking there eh?&quot;

Maybe that&#039;s a big topic for an ongoing discussion—a female representation on bike commuting. It seems most if not all of the writers here are male. Are there any other women that are able to give their perspective? It would be a huge help for women of course and for us guys in giving tips to female associates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Nicole to offend you. But you have to realize that you are the exception to the rule when it comes to MC readers. The magazine may be less of a droolfest of all things Haute Couture than say Vogue, but I&#8217;d bet a poll of it&#8217;s readers has maybe 0.5% as bike commuters. </p>
<p>Shoot I gotta say that from my very circumstantial perspective a woman is the exception to the rule for bike commuters. I don&#8217;t see very many, if any, on the road. The women I know personally that do bike to work are not your typical woman when it comes to hair, makeup, etc. I have a tough time trying to give pointers to my female coworkers simply because what to do with the hair is a big deal for them. I shave my head—so I&#8217;m not much help. And when a man tries to suggest that a woman can be smell free and presentable even after a bike ride I usually get eye rolls and remarks like &#8220;That&#8217;s a man talking there eh?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s a big topic for an ongoing discussion—a female representation on bike commuting. It seems most if not all of the writers here are male. Are there any other women that are able to give their perspective? It would be a huge help for women of course and for us guys in giving tips to female associates.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11321</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My main grievance, aside from the content of the MC piece itself, was the many commenters who felt the need to disparage and stereotype the general MC reader populous.  However, I completely agree that there is a great disparity in printing environmentally-focused articles one month then printing a back-handed comment about bike commuting the next.  Apparently, MC has a short memory.

And, MC isn&#039;t the only offender.  Even Self magazine recently wrote off biking as a recreational, warm weather pursuit.  Hopefully, someday these magazines will recognize that biking isn&#039;t only about cruising around your neighborhood (although that&#039;s great too) -- that it&#039;s a sustainable, easy alternative to driving, that it&#039;s possible in snow or other inclement weather, that bike commuters and people who ride in rain aren&#039;t crazy, and that, yes, we&#039;re having a lot of fun doing it!

Obviously, they&#039;ve never had the satisfaction of pacing a car through multiple intersections as they ride their bike through town. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My main grievance, aside from the content of the MC piece itself, was the many commenters who felt the need to disparage and stereotype the general MC reader populous.  However, I completely agree that there is a great disparity in printing environmentally-focused articles one month then printing a back-handed comment about bike commuting the next.  Apparently, MC has a short memory.</p>
<p>And, MC isn&#8217;t the only offender.  Even Self magazine recently wrote off biking as a recreational, warm weather pursuit.  Hopefully, someday these magazines will recognize that biking isn&#8217;t only about cruising around your neighborhood (although that&#8217;s great too) &#8212; that it&#8217;s a sustainable, easy alternative to driving, that it&#8217;s possible in snow or other inclement weather, that bike commuters and people who ride in rain aren&#8217;t crazy, and that, yes, we&#8217;re having a lot of fun doing it!</p>
<p>Obviously, they&#8217;ve never had the satisfaction of pacing a car through multiple intersections as they ride their bike through town. <img src='http://www.bikecommuters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11320</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicole, you&#039;re right, too -- proper feedback is the best course of action, and bashing IS pretty self-defeating for our &quot;cause&quot;.

Don&#039;t you wonder why Marie Claire would choose to slight potential Bike to Work Day participants and ALSO print environmentally-conscious articles?  I sure did...especially since &quot;going green&quot; is about the most fashionable thing being talked about right now!

A lot of commuters out there are at the end of their rope, though...road conditions aren&#039;t improving at the rate they really need to be, and so we lash out with pent-up frustration -- childish and snarky, to be sure, but sometimes &lt;i&gt;even the mouse has to roar like a lion&lt;/i&gt;!

Thanks again to everyone for your comments, both positive and negative -- dialogues like this are important for our community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicole, you&#8217;re right, too &#8212; proper feedback is the best course of action, and bashing IS pretty self-defeating for our &#8220;cause&#8221;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you wonder why Marie Claire would choose to slight potential Bike to Work Day participants and ALSO print environmentally-conscious articles?  I sure did&#8230;especially since &#8220;going green&#8221; is about the most fashionable thing being talked about right now!</p>
<p>A lot of commuters out there are at the end of their rope, though&#8230;road conditions aren&#8217;t improving at the rate they really need to be, and so we lash out with pent-up frustration &#8212; childish and snarky, to be sure, but sometimes <i>even the mouse has to roar like a lion</i>!</p>
<p>Thanks again to everyone for your comments, both positive and negative &#8212; dialogues like this are important for our community.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11316</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the quip mentioned as I polished off my May issue of MC.  Since I couldn&#039;t believe it, I had to google it to see if anyone else caught it.  Yes, I&#039;m dismayed at the off-handed, ignorant comment.  Just enough so, that I&#039;ll probably write a letter to the MC editor.

But, I have to say that I&#039;m equally dismayed at the stereotyping in these comments, from people who have likely never read the magazine (which, believe it or not, often features stories on environment-  and world-related issues).  It&#039;s possible to appreciate fashion and makeup and be a bike commuter and advocate. Yes, I commute by bike in my heels everyday (winter included) and put another 50-75 miles on my roadie during the week, weather permitting.

This is a huge misstep by Marie Claire that deserves to hear proper feedback from the bike community, but please don&#039;t devolve the discussion into a bashing of the MC readership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the quip mentioned as I polished off my May issue of MC.  Since I couldn&#8217;t believe it, I had to google it to see if anyone else caught it.  Yes, I&#8217;m dismayed at the off-handed, ignorant comment.  Just enough so, that I&#8217;ll probably write a letter to the MC editor.</p>
<p>But, I have to say that I&#8217;m equally dismayed at the stereotyping in these comments, from people who have likely never read the magazine (which, believe it or not, often features stories on environment-  and world-related issues).  It&#8217;s possible to appreciate fashion and makeup and be a bike commuter and advocate. Yes, I commute by bike in my heels everyday (winter included) and put another 50-75 miles on my roadie during the week, weather permitting.</p>
<p>This is a huge misstep by Marie Claire that deserves to hear proper feedback from the bike community, but please don&#8217;t devolve the discussion into a bashing of the MC readership.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job, Jack. At the risk of stereotyping Marie Claire readers, they are likely Coach bag-carrying, latte-sipping, Bluetooth headset-wearing, Lexus SUV-driving mindless hyperconsumers who would never deign to cycle to work. It&#039;s as foreign a concept to them as spending $7500 on a handbag is to me. 

We will have the last laugh, my friends. Gasoline in my little hick county in redneck Florida is $3.50/gallon for 87 octane. Those Lincoln and Lexus SUVs run on 93 octane, so that&#039;s $4.00/gallon or so. Think the overextended McMansion-dwelling uber-yuppies can continue spending $100+ for a fillup twice a week? We will be vindicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job, Jack. At the risk of stereotyping Marie Claire readers, they are likely Coach bag-carrying, latte-sipping, Bluetooth headset-wearing, Lexus SUV-driving mindless hyperconsumers who would never deign to cycle to work. It&#8217;s as foreign a concept to them as spending $7500 on a handbag is to me. </p>
<p>We will have the last laugh, my friends. Gasoline in my little hick county in redneck Florida is $3.50/gallon for 87 octane. Those Lincoln and Lexus SUVs run on 93 octane, so that&#8217;s $4.00/gallon or so. Think the overextended McMansion-dwelling uber-yuppies can continue spending $100+ for a fillup twice a week? We will be vindicated.</p>
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		<title>By: vegancommuter</title>
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		<dc:creator>vegancommuter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job Jack!   Please ignore the negative comments posted to your article as they all seem to be somewhat smug themselves and over protective.

Peter...stop being such a wuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Jack!   Please ignore the negative comments posted to your article as they all seem to be somewhat smug themselves and over protective.</p>
<p>Peter&#8230;stop being such a wuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Ladybusiness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ladybusiness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the Marie Claire blurb was just a one liner, it reinforces and condones the fact that Americans are all about the path of least resistance.  Why bring it up at all unless you want to put a positive spin on it and try and convince folks that maybe it doesn&#039;t have to be the most convenient method of getting to work to be worth trying?  It goes without saying that most people DON&#039;T bike to work because they assume it&#039;s going to take forever and be a big hassle.  It doesn&#039;t require an extra &quot;humorous&quot; sideline to reinforce the preferred sedentary lifestyle, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the Marie Claire blurb was just a one liner, it reinforces and condones the fact that Americans are all about the path of least resistance.  Why bring it up at all unless you want to put a positive spin on it and try and convince folks that maybe it doesn&#8217;t have to be the most convenient method of getting to work to be worth trying?  It goes without saying that most people DON&#8217;T bike to work because they assume it&#8217;s going to take forever and be a big hassle.  It doesn&#8217;t require an extra &#8220;humorous&#8221; sideline to reinforce the preferred sedentary lifestyle, does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Smudgemo</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11206</link>
		<dc:creator>Smudgemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only get that magazine for the articles.  Honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only get that magazine for the articles.  Honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/04/17/a-confession-and-an-angry-letter/#comment-11198</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, thanks...I think.

What?!?  I&#039;m abrasive?!?  Me, I&#039;m almost always calm and rational ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, thanks&#8230;I think.</p>
<p>What?!?  I&#8217;m abrasive?!?  Me, I&#8217;m almost always calm and rational <img src='http://www.bikecommuters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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