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		<title>By: Bike to Work Book free chapters &#171; In The Spin</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/11/03/what-if-more-people-bike-commuted/comment-page-1/#comment-16444</link>
		<dc:creator>Bike to Work Book free chapters &#171; In The Spin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/11/03/what-if-more-people-bike-commuted/comment-page-1/#comment-16335</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enzo, if you and your classmates are coming up with ideas like this in 5th grade, there IS hope for the world!  I wish you the best of luck!

If you have time, see if you can track down a copy of a book called &lt;em&gt;Smogtown:  The Lung-Burning History of Pollution in Los Angeles&lt;/em&gt; by Chip Jacobs and William J. Kelly (Woodstock, NY: Overlook, 2008).  They talk a lot about how automotive emissions and the various regulations created to fight their effects...a losing battle in the pollution-challenged Los Angeles Basin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enzo, if you and your classmates are coming up with ideas like this in 5th grade, there IS hope for the world!  I wish you the best of luck!</p>
<p>If you have time, see if you can track down a copy of a book called <em>Smogtown:  The Lung-Burning History of Pollution in Los Angeles</em> by Chip Jacobs and William J. Kelly (Woodstock, NY: Overlook, 2008).  They talk a lot about how automotive emissions and the various regulations created to fight their effects&#8230;a losing battle in the pollution-challenged Los Angeles Basin.</p>
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		<title>By: enzo</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/11/03/what-if-more-people-bike-commuted/comment-page-1/#comment-16332</link>
		<dc:creator>enzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

My name is Enzo, I am a 5th grade student in Los Angeles.

I am on a team competing in FIRST LEGO League, which promotes science and technology for kids.  This year’s theme is Climate Connections, and our team chose to study the connections between rising temperatures and car emissions in Los Angeles.  Did you know that these two things both affect each other?

Our team needed to think of a creative solution for our topic.  We found that a lot of car emissions come from people who drive a long distance to work every day, such as from Palmdale or Riverside to the downtown area.  These areas have commuter trains called MetroLink, and our idea is to add a rail car for bikes only.  This would encourage more people to leave the car at home, and get to work with bike and train.

We were surprised to learn that MetroLink has room for only 2 bikes per train car.  The other LA train system is a subway called Metro that travels shorter distances.  Metro is adding bike lockers at some stations, but this means you have to buy two bikes if you really want to stop driving the car to work.

In LA and other cities, train companies do not want to remove more seats to make room for bikes, because it would reduce their income.  Passenger train cars are expensive and take a long time to get.  So our idea is to take older rail cars that were used for something else, and make some changes to allow bike racks and ramps to get on and off.  After parking your bike in this rail car you just go sit down in a regular passenger car.  Adding these simple rail cars to the commuter train would not reduce income, and might even sell more tickets from all the people that could now take their bike to work.

We made several designs of rail cars that could hold between 34 and 80 bikes.  We estimate that each bikes-only rail car could reduce 408 to 960 tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year, if these commuters stopped driving 60 miles each way.  This is based on 0.8 pounds of CO2 per mile driven.

We also researched to see if other parts of the world have tried this idea.  Some cities in the US are adding more room for bikes by taking out seats, but this is going slow.  Some cities in Europe have taken out most or all of the seats, with people standing next to the bikes, but this was on subways and different than our topic of long distance commuters.

If you have read all this, thank you very much, because another one of our assignments was to share our project with people who might be interested.  Internet blogs are a good way for our team to try and share our work with a lot of people.  Hopefully you like our idea, and please wish us luck in our competition.

Enzo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>My name is Enzo, I am a 5th grade student in Los Angeles.</p>
<p>I am on a team competing in FIRST LEGO League, which promotes science and technology for kids.  This year’s theme is Climate Connections, and our team chose to study the connections between rising temperatures and car emissions in Los Angeles.  Did you know that these two things both affect each other?</p>
<p>Our team needed to think of a creative solution for our topic.  We found that a lot of car emissions come from people who drive a long distance to work every day, such as from Palmdale or Riverside to the downtown area.  These areas have commuter trains called MetroLink, and our idea is to add a rail car for bikes only.  This would encourage more people to leave the car at home, and get to work with bike and train.</p>
<p>We were surprised to learn that MetroLink has room for only 2 bikes per train car.  The other LA train system is a subway called Metro that travels shorter distances.  Metro is adding bike lockers at some stations, but this means you have to buy two bikes if you really want to stop driving the car to work.</p>
<p>In LA and other cities, train companies do not want to remove more seats to make room for bikes, because it would reduce their income.  Passenger train cars are expensive and take a long time to get.  So our idea is to take older rail cars that were used for something else, and make some changes to allow bike racks and ramps to get on and off.  After parking your bike in this rail car you just go sit down in a regular passenger car.  Adding these simple rail cars to the commuter train would not reduce income, and might even sell more tickets from all the people that could now take their bike to work.</p>
<p>We made several designs of rail cars that could hold between 34 and 80 bikes.  We estimate that each bikes-only rail car could reduce 408 to 960 tons of carbon dioxide emissions per year, if these commuters stopped driving 60 miles each way.  This is based on 0.8 pounds of CO2 per mile driven.</p>
<p>We also researched to see if other parts of the world have tried this idea.  Some cities in the US are adding more room for bikes by taking out seats, but this is going slow.  Some cities in Europe have taken out most or all of the seats, with people standing next to the bikes, but this was on subways and different than our topic of long distance commuters.</p>
<p>If you have read all this, thank you very much, because another one of our assignments was to share our project with people who might be interested.  Internet blogs are a good way for our team to try and share our work with a lot of people.  Hopefully you like our idea, and please wish us luck in our competition.</p>
<p>Enzo</p>
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		<title>By: dan goldwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan goldwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deceptive - both the bikes AND the cars are packed much more densely than is possible when they are actually moving in traffic.  but in my opinion the ratio of packing is more skewed in favor of the bikes in these photos.   there are accurate stats on road capacities elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deceptive &#8211; both the bikes AND the cars are packed much more densely than is possible when they are actually moving in traffic.  but in my opinion the ratio of packing is more skewed in favor of the bikes in these photos.   there are accurate stats on road capacities elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic Dougherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic Dougherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever lane I am in is a bike lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever lane I am in is a bike lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Haynes</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/11/03/what-if-more-people-bike-commuted/comment-page-1/#comment-16193</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Haynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trick isn&#039;t in the photoraphy- the trick is getting people to ride bikes.

I&#039;m working on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick isn&#8217;t in the photoraphy- the trick is getting people to ride bikes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesus Christ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesus Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;blatant LIES in the photo that make it look better than it really is&quot;

Wow Mark... lol  even if they are cropped, bikes don&#039;t take up as much room as a suv!? that&#039;s just common sense. You guys are some anal commuters lol. 

 And Christ said let there be bicycles and there were, and they were good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;blatant LIES in the photo that make it look better than it really is&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow Mark&#8230; lol  even if they are cropped, bikes don&#8217;t take up as much room as a suv!? that&#8217;s just common sense. You guys are some anal commuters lol. </p>
<p> And Christ said let there be bicycles and there were, and they were good.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clancy,

Yes thank you for the link, that one looks much better.  They did adjust the camera btw shoots but it doesn&#039;t looked cropped or zoomed at different levels like the Germany photo.  And your right I have no problem with the point it is trying to get across, I have a problem with the deceptive nature the Germany picture embodies with the image cropped and zoomed at different levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clancy,</p>
<p>Yes thank you for the link, that one looks much better.  They did adjust the camera btw shoots but it doesn&#8217;t looked cropped or zoomed at different levels like the Germany photo.  And your right I have no problem with the point it is trying to get across, I have a problem with the deceptive nature the Germany picture embodies with the image cropped and zoomed at different levels.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could find a reference to a web site I saw a couple years back where the author had taken aerial images of Boulder, CO and calculated the amount of paved area that was dedicated to auto movement and simple parking (a lot).  

There were also illustrations of how different areas would look if the space for auto&#039;s were reduced to a single, one way lane for delivery vehicles and trolley like transport. 

If anyone has that URL it would be worth taking a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could find a reference to a web site I saw a couple years back where the author had taken aerial images of Boulder, CO and calculated the amount of paved area that was dedicated to auto movement and simple parking (a lot).  </p>
<p>There were also illustrations of how different areas would look if the space for auto&#8217;s were reduced to a single, one way lane for delivery vehicles and trolley like transport. </p>
<p>If anyone has that URL it would be worth taking a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Haynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip Haynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clancy, those Tampa photos look much better.  Thank you for posting them! As for LJ&#039;s comment about having too many cyclists for the bike lanes, we should be so lucky. Just keep in mind that I&#039;m the guy who says:

&quot;When the oil runs out, they&#039;re ALL bike lanes!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clancy, those Tampa photos look much better.  Thank you for posting them! As for LJ&#8217;s comment about having too many cyclists for the bike lanes, we should be so lucky. Just keep in mind that I&#8217;m the guy who says:</p>
<p>&#8220;When the oil runs out, they&#8217;re ALL bike lanes!&#8221;</p>
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