Comments on: Let Your Voice Be Heard! http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/ Bike Your Drive! Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:39:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Raiyn http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16764 Raiyn Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:52:01 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16764 @ "Rain Waters" It's not me who needs to wake up. If you had read what I said, I invited him to come back when he had some intelligent points to add as opposed to the poorly articulated ravings of the tin foil hat brigade. Obama may not be the messianic figure that Faux News and their neo-con ilk mockingly try to pin the hopes of the lefties on, but he's a damn site better than what we've had for the last 8 years and for me that's a start. Raiyn - not the guy you want to argue with. @ “Rain Waters”
It’s not me who needs to wake up. If you had read what I said, I invited him to come back when he had some intelligent points to add as opposed to the poorly articulated ravings of the tin foil hat brigade.

Obama may not be the messianic figure that Faux News and their neo-con ilk mockingly try to pin the hopes of the lefties on, but he’s a damn site better than what we’ve had for the last 8 years and for me that’s a start.

Raiyn – not the guy you want to argue with.

]]> By: Rain Waters http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16729 Rain Waters Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:53:31 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16729 Raiyn, You might wake up sooner or later and listen to people like eric. Its sad to see people repeatedy put their faith in politicians. I was raised in mendota and am here in Oregon, so trust me, I know what makes liberals tick. Its sad to see intelligent people put their faith in a 100% totally corrupt system way beyond possibility of recycling. Although you may not hear this, if you're wise enough to feel the benefit of cycling then what keeps you tied to distracting nonsense like the big O? Simply distracting nonsense. . . I know it hurts to look at the world as its presented to us now> Bike commuting is a positive step and we really don't need to bash each other no matter which direction we might choose to do so in. So I'm gonna ease over and let this pass instead of choosing to turn it into us and them. Rain without the Y Raiyn,

You might wake up sooner or later and listen to people like eric. Its sad to see people repeatedy put their faith in politicians. I was raised in mendota and am here in Oregon, so trust me, I know what makes liberals tick.

Its sad to see intelligent people put their faith in a 100% totally corrupt system way beyond possibility of recycling. Although you may not hear this, if you’re wise enough to feel the benefit of cycling then what keeps you tied to distracting nonsense like the big O? Simply distracting nonsense. . .

I know it hurts to look at the world as its presented to us now>

Bike commuting is a positive step and we really don’t need to bash each other no matter which direction we might choose to do so in. So I’m gonna ease over and let this pass instead of choosing to turn it into us and them.

Rain without the Y

]]> By: CyclingAnalyst http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16726 CyclingAnalyst Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:50:27 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16726 Building infrastructure for improved and safer cycling would be difficult on a national scale because of the resistance of local municipalities. A better approach might be to further quantify the methods of rating a city as "bicycle-friendly". And federal funds for cycling enhancement could be awarded based on the ratings as an incentive to cities. California has Law AB-1581 that mandates bicycle detection at traffic signals at initial installation or subsequent replacement. But cities like Newport Beach continue to resist cycling. The traffic engineers from Newport Beach City Hall replied to an email that a left-turn signal used by hundreds of cyclists each week had been set back not to detect bicycles. The embedded wire loops and quadruples do not detect a bicycle either on passing over or stopping on. Meanwhile, the Newport Beach Police Department (NBPD) exploits bicycles by writing vehicle citations that can total to a $1000 for fine and insurance increases. The traffic commanding lieutenant at NBPD sent me a letter advocating that bicycles should first test a signal, then dismount and scurry from the left-turn lane over to crosswalk to press the pedestrian button. If cities such as the Newport Beach City Hall and the NBPD are collaborating to defy California bicycle traffic signal detection, a national program for cycling infrastructure is futile. In this economy of reduced tax revenues, cities that are overstaffed and under-productive will tend to prey on cyclists as fodder for citation revenue. Building infrastructure for improved and safer cycling would be difficult on a national scale because of the resistance of local municipalities. A better approach might be to further quantify the methods of rating a city as “bicycle-friendly”. And federal funds for cycling enhancement could be awarded based on the ratings as an incentive to cities. California has Law AB-1581 that mandates bicycle detection at traffic signals at initial installation or subsequent replacement. But cities like Newport Beach continue to resist cycling. The traffic engineers from Newport Beach City Hall replied to an email that a left-turn signal used by hundreds of cyclists each week had been set back not to detect bicycles. The embedded wire loops and quadruples do not detect a bicycle either on passing over or stopping on. Meanwhile, the Newport Beach Police Department (NBPD) exploits bicycles by writing vehicle citations that can total to a $1000 for fine and insurance increases. The traffic commanding lieutenant at NBPD sent me a letter advocating that bicycles should first test a signal, then dismount and scurry from the left-turn lane over to crosswalk to press the pedestrian button. If cities such as the Newport Beach City Hall and the NBPD are collaborating to defy California bicycle traffic signal detection, a national program for cycling infrastructure is futile. In this economy of reduced tax revenues, cities that are overstaffed and under-productive will tend to prey on cyclists as fodder for citation revenue.

]]> By: Raiyn http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16719 Raiyn Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:31:02 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16719 @ Mike Preaching to the choir, buddy. @ Eric Come back when you can make some intelligent points rather than comments akin to mumbled conspiracy theories. @ Mike
Preaching to the choir, buddy.

@ Eric
Come back when you can make some intelligent points rather than comments akin to mumbled conspiracy theories.

]]> By: Mike Myers http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16717 Mike Myers Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:02:49 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16717 Raiyn---I've heard the "see it coming" argument from my own brother, a smart MOTORCYCLIST, for cryin out loud. Wrong way riders on 2-lane roads scare me. If a rider is in my lane riding with traffic, I can slow and pass when it's safe. If he's riding toward me and there's oncoming traffic, I'm forced to buzz the rider. Then he goes home and tells his friends how scary it is to ride. Then before long he gets hit or forced off the road and gets listed as a "bicyclist" in the papers. Then we end up in re-education camps. Raiyn—I’ve heard the “see it coming” argument from my own brother, a smart MOTORCYCLIST, for cryin out loud.

Wrong way riders on 2-lane roads scare me. If a rider is in my lane riding with traffic, I can slow and pass when it’s safe. If he’s riding toward me and there’s oncoming traffic, I’m forced to buzz the rider. Then he goes home and tells his friends how scary it is to ride. Then before long he gets hit or forced off the road and gets listed as a “bicyclist” in the papers. Then we end up in re-education camps.

]]> By: eric http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16716 eric Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:59:35 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16716 i would like to see obama shut down the federal reserve and bring home all troops from the hundred or so countries they are. obama is a continuation of bush who was a continuation of clinton. i would like to see obama shut down the federal reserve and bring home all troops from the hundred or so countries they are. obama is a continuation of bush who was a continuation of clinton.

]]> By: Raiyn http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16715 Raiyn Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:28:56 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16715 Something in the same vein as the original post. <a>Help Rep. Oberstar Support Mass Transit <i>via Streetsblog</i></a> Rep. Oberstar is from my home state of MN and has long been a proponent of mass transit and bicycle infrastructure. There's a link to a beautifully set up auto petition in the story. Something in the same vein as the original post.
Help Rep. Oberstar Support Mass Transit via Streetsblog

Rep. Oberstar is from my home state of MN and has long been a proponent of mass transit and bicycle infrastructure. There’s a link to a beautifully set up auto petition in the story.

]]> By: Raiyn http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16709 Raiyn Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:53:03 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16709 @ Mike Notice I didn't call them <i>cyclists</i>. They don't get the title because they make the rest of us look bad. *rant Look, I get that many times <a href="http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3817/wrongwaynu2.jpg" rel="nofollow">simple physics</a> might escape them but there's a damn arrow painted in the lane to show them the right way. "But I can dodge the car because I can see it!" Err, no. You'll most likely panic, hit the curb, and wipe out. Plus, if the car is that far over it's probably going to hit you anyway it's your choice if you want it to hit you in a manner which will lessen the impact or one where it runs your wiped out butt over. *end rant @ Mike
Notice I didn’t call them cyclists. They don’t get the title because they make the rest of us look bad.

*rant
Look, I get that many times simple physics might escape them but there’s a damn arrow painted in the lane to show them the right way.

“But I can dodge the car because I can see it!” Err, no. You’ll most likely panic, hit the curb, and wipe out. Plus, if the car is that far over it’s probably going to hit you anyway it’s your choice if you want it to hit you in a manner which will lessen the impact or one where it runs your wiped out butt over.
*end rant

]]> By: db http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16706 db Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:06:46 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16706 Thanks for posting those links. Will definitely add my input. Thanks for posting those links. Will definitely add my input.

]]> By: Bob http://www.bikecommuters.com/2008/12/20/let-your-voice-be-heard/#comment-16704 Bob Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:36:49 +0000 http://www.bikecommuters.com/?p=1730#comment-16704 More bicycle advocacy groups along with their members and "lone riders" need to start speaking out on a national level. "Bike salmon" that's funny. :-) More bicycle advocacy groups along with their members and “lone riders” need to start speaking out on a national level.

“Bike salmon” that’s funny. :-)

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