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		<title>By: LoneRider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18841</link>
		<dc:creator>LoneRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, as to safety on bike vs a car, there are two issues here: the danger of having an accident in the first place, and the danger of injury in the event of an accident.  In my experience the cyclist riding in traffic is at risk because a lot of drivers are inattentive -- and if he is in a crash, he is much more likely to get hurt. Also an accident will cause proportionally greater damage to the bike than car no matter what the speed. A dented bike and no access to brazing or welding equipement?  totalled bike. A dented car? Minor body repair.

Statistics do show more people killed in cars but more people drive than bike and more of the drivers spend a lot longer on the roads thereby exposign themselves to more risk. Also a lot of cyclists are not fully interacting with traffic which is actually less safe but limits the injury should they fall. I.e., putting along at 10 mph will make yourself more liekly t5o get hit on abusy street. If you stick to backroads you may be fine.  But if you want to ride for transport you have to develop the ability to use different types of streets so you can do so safely if you have to, even if you&#039;d wisely choose your route based on least danger or number of hazards. Example: a cyclist riding at a brisk mpace through a 4 way can be killed or injured by a left turning oncoming car. A cycling poking along at 10 mph can probably stop if the car cuts him off.  However, if the briskly moving cyclist slows down from 20 to 10 mph, the car WILL cut him off because he will think the cyclist is letting him go... You have to be experienced and learn the skills to judge these situations.  

I would rather ride at 20 and take my chances on my own eyes than going slow and trusting others to see me, though I do take precautions especially in the evening using many more lights than the number rwequired by law...

There are also risks peculiar to cyclists and to some degree motorcycles, such as drivers misjudging their speed when they&#039;d be able to judge the speed of a car -- or skidding out and falling. Open car doors, etc.  All pose risks to two wheeled road users that cars don&#039;t have to worry about.  And how many times are you hit in the head with a bottle tossed out of a car doing 40 mph in your Toyota Camry?

While one should not hype the dangers of cycling, there are dangers out there, and one would be remiss to ignore them, especially since better education of drivers is usually the only way to fix them, except there will be nomove to educate drivers if no one knows they need it because no one talks about the dangers of a left hook or a car edging you into a ditch.

I&#039;d say, mention the dangers, then add the numbe rof people killed driving or walking for a bit of perspective -- keeping in mind the context, of course. We don&#039;t want people riding with blinders to the danger -- but we don&#039;t wanna scare folks away from riding either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, as to safety on bike vs a car, there are two issues here: the danger of having an accident in the first place, and the danger of injury in the event of an accident.  In my experience the cyclist riding in traffic is at risk because a lot of drivers are inattentive &#8212; and if he is in a crash, he is much more likely to get hurt. Also an accident will cause proportionally greater damage to the bike than car no matter what the speed. A dented bike and no access to brazing or welding equipement?  totalled bike. A dented car? Minor body repair.</p>
<p>Statistics do show more people killed in cars but more people drive than bike and more of the drivers spend a lot longer on the roads thereby exposign themselves to more risk. Also a lot of cyclists are not fully interacting with traffic which is actually less safe but limits the injury should they fall. I.e., putting along at 10 mph will make yourself more liekly t5o get hit on abusy street. If you stick to backroads you may be fine.  But if you want to ride for transport you have to develop the ability to use different types of streets so you can do so safely if you have to, even if you&#8217;d wisely choose your route based on least danger or number of hazards. Example: a cyclist riding at a brisk mpace through a 4 way can be killed or injured by a left turning oncoming car. A cycling poking along at 10 mph can probably stop if the car cuts him off.  However, if the briskly moving cyclist slows down from 20 to 10 mph, the car WILL cut him off because he will think the cyclist is letting him go&#8230; You have to be experienced and learn the skills to judge these situations.  </p>
<p>I would rather ride at 20 and take my chances on my own eyes than going slow and trusting others to see me, though I do take precautions especially in the evening using many more lights than the number rwequired by law&#8230;</p>
<p>There are also risks peculiar to cyclists and to some degree motorcycles, such as drivers misjudging their speed when they&#8217;d be able to judge the speed of a car &#8212; or skidding out and falling. Open car doors, etc.  All pose risks to two wheeled road users that cars don&#8217;t have to worry about.  And how many times are you hit in the head with a bottle tossed out of a car doing 40 mph in your Toyota Camry?</p>
<p>While one should not hype the dangers of cycling, there are dangers out there, and one would be remiss to ignore them, especially since better education of drivers is usually the only way to fix them, except there will be nomove to educate drivers if no one knows they need it because no one talks about the dangers of a left hook or a car edging you into a ditch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, mention the dangers, then add the numbe rof people killed driving or walking for a bit of perspective &#8212; keeping in mind the context, of course. We don&#8217;t want people riding with blinders to the danger &#8212; but we don&#8217;t wanna scare folks away from riding either.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis The Bald</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18793</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis The Bald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe what I&#039;m reading here comparing the relative danger of motor vehicles to HPVs.  The danger posed by bicycles is non-existent within the context of that posed by motor vehicles.
Very few of the 40,000 plus deaths caused by motor vehicles in the USofA each year result in any prosecution, they are just accidents - the sort of thing that might happen to anyone (well, anyone that operated one of those death machines).  In this light everyone that drives a car must share in the responsibility for those deaths, no matter how carefully they drive.  Murderous bastards, one and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe what I&#8217;m reading here comparing the relative danger of motor vehicles to HPVs.  The danger posed by bicycles is non-existent within the context of that posed by motor vehicles.<br />
Very few of the 40,000 plus deaths caused by motor vehicles in the USofA each year result in any prosecution, they are just accidents &#8211; the sort of thing that might happen to anyone (well, anyone that operated one of those death machines).  In this light everyone that drives a car must share in the responsibility for those deaths, no matter how carefully they drive.  Murderous bastards, one and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Slow News Day: Bike Commuting is Up &#38; so are Folding Bikes &#171; Slow Family Online</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18631</link>
		<dc:creator>Slow News Day: Bike Commuting is Up &#38; so are Folding Bikes &#171; Slow Family Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] something is holding you back from bike commuting or riding more, this list at Bikecommuters.com dispels some [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew (bandicoot)</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18294</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew (bandicoot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 08:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use a spare office fan...works great to evaporate sweat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a spare office fan&#8230;works great to evaporate sweat</p>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18217</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you may want to check with the wonderful folks at the Washington Area Bicyclist Association (WABA):
http://www.waba.org/   They are a tremendous resource!

Happy c0mmuting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you may want to check with the wonderful folks at the Washington Area Bicyclist Association (WABA):<br />
<a href="http://www.waba.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.waba.org/</a>   They are a tremendous resource!</p>
<p>Happy c0mmuting!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18216</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 01:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:Health clubs offer showers; get a discounted membership for showers only.

Hi everyone. On June 1 I am starting a job at a new office in downtown DC that will have about an 11 mile bike commute, one way.  This will be 9 miles on trails and between 1.75 and 2 miles on city streets in downtown DC.

I did it this morning to both get the sense of it and how long it will take (52 minutes and I missed one turn and had to backtrack.)

What I am really hoping is that someone will have a suggestion for gyms in the downtown DC area which offer these &quot;shower only&quot; memberships. I am really interested in this as I generally sweat a good deal when I am doing even mild activity and while I am willing to do the sponge bath/handiwipe/baby powder thing when I get to work.....would be cool to have a way to get cleaner.  Any help?</description>
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<p>Hi everyone. On June 1 I am starting a job at a new office in downtown DC that will have about an 11 mile bike commute, one way.  This will be 9 miles on trails and between 1.75 and 2 miles on city streets in downtown DC.</p>
<p>I did it this morning to both get the sense of it and how long it will take (52 minutes and I missed one turn and had to backtrack.)</p>
<p>What I am really hoping is that someone will have a suggestion for gyms in the downtown DC area which offer these &#8220;shower only&#8221; memberships. I am really interested in this as I generally sweat a good deal when I am doing even mild activity and while I am willing to do the sponge bath/handiwipe/baby powder thing when I get to work&#8230;..would be cool to have a way to get cleaner.  Any help?</p>
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		<title>By: limonene</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18173</link>
		<dc:creator>limonene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only dangerous part of riding is nothing between you and the impact.  However, if  you assume that all other drivers/bikers on the road are going to do something stupid and hit you, then you&#039;ll be more aware of all traffic.  And I don&#039;t assert my right of way against a vehicle..  And yes,  getting hit twice made me start thinking this way.  This is called defensive driving/biking...it&#039;s what I taught my kids on bicycle or in a car.  For sweater riders at work, keep a bath cloth and towel for sponge baths in the restroom...works fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only dangerous part of riding is nothing between you and the impact.  However, if  you assume that all other drivers/bikers on the road are going to do something stupid and hit you, then you&#8217;ll be more aware of all traffic.  And I don&#8217;t assert my right of way against a vehicle..  And yes,  getting hit twice made me start thinking this way.  This is called defensive driving/biking&#8230;it&#8217;s what I taught my kids on bicycle or in a car.  For sweater riders at work, keep a bath cloth and towel for sponge baths in the restroom&#8230;works fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Design Impact &#187; Blog Archive &#187; May is National Bike Month</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18145</link>
		<dc:creator>Design Impact &#187; Blog Archive &#187; May is National Bike Month</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bikcommuters.com for tips on getting around on your bike, including recent posts on long commutes, dispelling myths about bicycle commuting, and a review of the book &#8216;The Practical Cyclist &#8216;, which addresses how to help make [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ghost Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2009/04/26/10-bike-commuting-myths-dispelled/comment-page-1/#comment-18023</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghost Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesskat -- that&#039;s a tough one, for sure.  A lot of the solutions require some expense.  I live in a fairly dense urban area and don&#039;t own a car, and my 5-year old rides everywhere with me on the back of my Xtracycle (school, groceries, restaurants, etc.).

Until I got the Xtra, I used a trailer extensively.  Bike trailers can be had for really cheap -- I got mine brand new for about $80, and I see them pop up on Craigslist all the time as kids outgrow them.

You may also consider adding public transportation into the mix, if such is available.  Eliminating a car from your life may not be the best option, but I am convinced everyone, no matter the circumstances, can certainly reduce their reliance on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesskat &#8212; that&#8217;s a tough one, for sure.  A lot of the solutions require some expense.  I live in a fairly dense urban area and don&#8217;t own a car, and my 5-year old rides everywhere with me on the back of my Xtracycle (school, groceries, restaurants, etc.).</p>
<p>Until I got the Xtra, I used a trailer extensively.  Bike trailers can be had for really cheap &#8212; I got mine brand new for about $80, and I see them pop up on Craigslist all the time as kids outgrow them.</p>
<p>You may also consider adding public transportation into the mix, if such is available.  Eliminating a car from your life may not be the best option, but I am convinced everyone, no matter the circumstances, can certainly reduce their reliance on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesskat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesskat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about having kids? I have a 5 year old son that I have to take with me everywhere I go. He&#039;s not good enough on his bike to go up all the hills this town has. Plus my town is really spread out; nothing is close to anything else. He&#039;s also 55 pounds so hauling him in a trailer (if i could afford one) is out of the question. How would you deal with this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about having kids? I have a 5 year old son that I have to take with me everywhere I go. He&#8217;s not good enough on his bike to go up all the hills this town has. Plus my town is really spread out; nothing is close to anything else. He&#8217;s also 55 pounds so hauling him in a trailer (if i could afford one) is out of the question. How would you deal with this problem?</p>
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