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		<title>By: gary</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-29401</link>
		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;d like to build one off a atlas cargo bike with a the robin suburu motor. sure it&#039;s cheating if  compared to peddling cyclist, not so much if you&#039;re driving a car. there&#039;s two types of users.... those that use bike paths for recreation and those who travel somewhere that the bike path doesn&#039;t go. i&#039;m thinking an electric is gonna be a $700 plus battery every few years whether u ride it or park it so it&#039;s best to use an electric every day to get the most milage out of the battery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;d like to build one off a atlas cargo bike with a the robin suburu motor. sure it&#8217;s cheating if  compared to peddling cyclist, not so much if you&#8217;re driving a car. there&#8217;s two types of users&#8230;. those that use bike paths for recreation and those who travel somewhere that the bike path doesn&#8217;t go. i&#8217;m thinking an electric is gonna be a $700 plus battery every few years whether u ride it or park it so it&#8217;s best to use an electric every day to get the most milage out of the battery</p>
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		<title>By: tdogg</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-26901</link>
		<dc:creator>tdogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about people that want to get out of their car but are too weak to get up all these hills around portland because they have cancer, weakened immune systems, arthritis, multiple sclerosis, chronic fatigue, neurogenic muscle atrophy, etc? What if they can&#039;t afford an electric bike or a &quot;real&quot; scooter because this economy is so screwed? They are pretty effing exspensive.
It seems like there is a lot of snobby, judgemental cyclists around PDX.
I don&#039;t necessarily like the gas emissions from the bikes but I also don&#039;t judge others for using them, because I have no idea what their circumstances are just by looking at them. 
Everyone needs to quit hating and start praising each other for making steps, whether they&#039;re small or big, towards a more healthy community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about people that want to get out of their car but are too weak to get up all these hills around portland because they have cancer, weakened immune systems, arthritis, multiple sclerosis, chronic fatigue, neurogenic muscle atrophy, etc? What if they can&#8217;t afford an electric bike or a &#8220;real&#8221; scooter because this economy is so screwed? They are pretty effing exspensive.<br />
It seems like there is a lot of snobby, judgemental cyclists around PDX.<br />
I don&#8217;t necessarily like the gas emissions from the bikes but I also don&#8217;t judge others for using them, because I have no idea what their circumstances are just by looking at them.<br />
Everyone needs to quit hating and start praising each other for making steps, whether they&#8217;re small or big, towards a more healthy community.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an electric bike now, and would like to get a gas bike. I use it primarily for transportation, but pedal the whole time to get the exercise I need, and to help the motor. If I get a gas bike I can go further, and enjoy it much more. I want to ride up in the mountains if it has enough power to do so.If I am just pleasure riding I do not use the motor at all. I only use it going uphill, or if I am in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an electric bike now, and would like to get a gas bike. I use it primarily for transportation, but pedal the whole time to get the exercise I need, and to help the motor. If I get a gas bike I can go further, and enjoy it much more. I want to ride up in the mountains if it has enough power to do so.If I am just pleasure riding I do not use the motor at all. I only use it going uphill, or if I am in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: JackTar</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-25295</link>
		<dc:creator>JackTar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 00:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all

I have am 65, great health except for the tenonitis I have in my legs from riding my bicycle so much.  I now have both a bicycle and a motorized bicycle.  Not all motors are the cheap 2 cy. chinese, that are loud and polluting.  I have a 4 stroke, fairly quiet, low r.p.m. motor.  Honda makes a lite weight 4-stroke motors, and are very low polluting. It can be done. As for E-bikes, with out a lot of money, I can&#039;t buy one that will go the distance.  I power along very carefully, obeying the laws. As for Portland bicycling, I have seen many arrogant riders, riding illegaly, with no regards for other peds.,autos,or other bikers.(think brakeless bicycles).  I hope the&quot;true&quot; bicyclers well see that there&#039;s many reasons riding a motor assisted bike, and it&#039;s far greener than a SUV, in all ways. One thing more, Just imagin the I-5 Bridge, with mostly bicycles of every king moving across it.  Jack Tar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all</p>
<p>I have am 65, great health except for the tenonitis I have in my legs from riding my bicycle so much.  I now have both a bicycle and a motorized bicycle.  Not all motors are the cheap 2 cy. chinese, that are loud and polluting.  I have a 4 stroke, fairly quiet, low r.p.m. motor.  Honda makes a lite weight 4-stroke motors, and are very low polluting. It can be done. As for E-bikes, with out a lot of money, I can&#8217;t buy one that will go the distance.  I power along very carefully, obeying the laws. As for Portland bicycling, I have seen many arrogant riders, riding illegaly, with no regards for other peds.,autos,or other bikers.(think brakeless bicycles).  I hope the&#8221;true&#8221; bicyclers well see that there&#8217;s many reasons riding a motor assisted bike, and it&#8217;s far greener than a SUV, in all ways. One thing more, Just imagin the I-5 Bridge, with mostly bicycles of every king moving across it.  Jack Tar</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-24216</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too had a gas powered bike. It was very fun and fuel efficient. Some can reach up to 30 MPH, but I usually maxed out around 27 after the break in period. In the end it broke down. But if your lokking for power and speed, then it&#039;s for you. And to the commentors who said &quot;For rednecks only,&quot; and &quot;a special place in Hell reserved for these psuedo-green phonies in my (never-so) humble opinion,&quot; you should be ashamed of yourselves. There is no need for childish biasis like that in this world. Comments like that add nothing to anyone&#039;s arguement. They only show your inhability to bring evidence to the table. Such disreguard and cruelness towards your own species. Shame on you both! Good day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too had a gas powered bike. It was very fun and fuel efficient. Some can reach up to 30 MPH, but I usually maxed out around 27 after the break in period. In the end it broke down. But if your lokking for power and speed, then it&#8217;s for you. And to the commentors who said &#8220;For rednecks only,&#8221; and &#8220;a special place in Hell reserved for these psuedo-green phonies in my (never-so) humble opinion,&#8221; you should be ashamed of yourselves. There is no need for childish biasis like that in this world. Comments like that add nothing to anyone&#8217;s arguement. They only show your inhability to bring evidence to the table. Such disreguard and cruelness towards your own species. Shame on you both! Good day!</p>
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		<title>By: Meer123</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-22804</link>
		<dc:creator>Meer123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question posted by the author is &quot;So what are your thoughts on gas powered bikes?&quot; and not is &quot;Gas better than electric&quot; or &quot;do you get more excercise or less&quot; or is it greener then pure pedaling.
 
Yes - it does have emissions - yes it does require less effort than a regular bike and yes, the electric solution has come on strong and in many ways is a much more elegant and green way of getting assited propulsion.

I love my Gary Fisher Chronus (the old one with a flat bar and fat slicks, not the new weight watching weenie) and I love pedaling it for recreation and fitness. But I also have an older garage sale sourced MTB with a cheap chinese 2 stroke that is both fun and endearing (for different reason) ... one does not compete with the other ... and when finances and time allow, I suspect I&#039;ll one day try and do an electric bike build up as well. Broaden your horizons and leave your hate mail out of it. I do this because I am a bicycle enthusiast - not because I&#039;m Lance Armstrong or a greenie or hate cars ... just like bikes ... even those with a little extra oomph when you need it ... it&#039;s not a race so it is not to be considered as cheating ... the gas bike just allows me to go further and faster and arrive not looking like a stick of melting butter ... it aint for everyone but you need to try it before you judge it, you might like it ? It&#039;s cheaper than a high end set of Dura-Ace gears or a nice set of road wheels and is the furthest thing from being and extravegance. Most kits can be installed (and removed, if you dont like it) in an afternoon so most folks can do it themselves so it&#039;s a great project if you like to tinker like many bike folks do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question posted by the author is &#8220;So what are your thoughts on gas powered bikes?&#8221; and not is &#8220;Gas better than electric&#8221; or &#8220;do you get more excercise or less&#8221; or is it greener then pure pedaling.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; it does have emissions &#8211; yes it does require less effort than a regular bike and yes, the electric solution has come on strong and in many ways is a much more elegant and green way of getting assited propulsion.</p>
<p>I love my Gary Fisher Chronus (the old one with a flat bar and fat slicks, not the new weight watching weenie) and I love pedaling it for recreation and fitness. But I also have an older garage sale sourced MTB with a cheap chinese 2 stroke that is both fun and endearing (for different reason) &#8230; one does not compete with the other &#8230; and when finances and time allow, I suspect I&#8217;ll one day try and do an electric bike build up as well. Broaden your horizons and leave your hate mail out of it. I do this because I am a bicycle enthusiast &#8211; not because I&#8217;m Lance Armstrong or a greenie or hate cars &#8230; just like bikes &#8230; even those with a little extra oomph when you need it &#8230; it&#8217;s not a race so it is not to be considered as cheating &#8230; the gas bike just allows me to go further and faster and arrive not looking like a stick of melting butter &#8230; it aint for everyone but you need to try it before you judge it, you might like it ? It&#8217;s cheaper than a high end set of Dura-Ace gears or a nice set of road wheels and is the furthest thing from being and extravegance. Most kits can be installed (and removed, if you dont like it) in an afternoon so most folks can do it themselves so it&#8217;s a great project if you like to tinker like many bike folks do.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-21202</link>
		<dc:creator>Rip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys are lame, i&#039;ve had mine forever... it&#039;s safe, reliable and an awesome grocery getter.  

as far as the emissions go... who cares.  sometimes i start my up car engine and leave it running in idle, while i ride my 2 stroke engine bike wide open - balancing to drive the bike with no hands so i can spray hairspray cans into the air during my commute.  i don&#039;t recycle and i leave all the lights on at work when i leave for the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys are lame, i&#8217;ve had mine forever&#8230; it&#8217;s safe, reliable and an awesome grocery getter.  </p>
<p>as far as the emissions go&#8230; who cares.  sometimes i start my up car engine and leave it running in idle, while i ride my 2 stroke engine bike wide open &#8211; balancing to drive the bike with no hands so i can spray hairspray cans into the air during my commute.  i don&#8217;t recycle and i leave all the lights on at work when i leave for the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Karak</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-21076</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Karak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think dismissing motorized bicycles as insufficiently pure is misguided.  The fact is, power assist bicycle commuting is a legitimate transportation ALTERNATIVE.  If someone needs a little help before they can make their commute on two wheels, then we should be supportive.  The problem is that the market is very small and there are not many quality products available to the average consumer.

As a practical matter, like a typical bike, a motorized bicycle is much cheaper (MPG, insurance, repairs, etc.) than a traditional auto or gas-powered scooter.  It never becomes so worn out that the whole vehicle must be replaced--a few new components and it is good as new.  In a competitive environment of product manufacturers producing the same standardized components, consumers are in a very favorable economic position.

Any way we can get people off of 4-wheels and onto 2-wheels is a win for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think dismissing motorized bicycles as insufficiently pure is misguided.  The fact is, power assist bicycle commuting is a legitimate transportation ALTERNATIVE.  If someone needs a little help before they can make their commute on two wheels, then we should be supportive.  The problem is that the market is very small and there are not many quality products available to the average consumer.</p>
<p>As a practical matter, like a typical bike, a motorized bicycle is much cheaper (MPG, insurance, repairs, etc.) than a traditional auto or gas-powered scooter.  It never becomes so worn out that the whole vehicle must be replaced&#8211;a few new components and it is good as new.  In a competitive environment of product manufacturers producing the same standardized components, consumers are in a very favorable economic position.</p>
<p>Any way we can get people off of 4-wheels and onto 2-wheels is a win for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: RL Policar</title>
		<link>http://www.bikecommuters.com/2010/02/08/gas-powered-commuter-bike/#comment-21062</link>
		<dc:creator>RL Policar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate,

That&#039;s actually kinda funny. But those ads are generated automatically based on the content of the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s actually kinda funny. But those ads are generated automatically based on the content of the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony about this post is it shares the screen with Google ads for 50-80cc engine kits (and 35 mph) for as low as $109.

I like what Jeff S. said: &quot;horrible solution to a non-existent problem&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony about this post is it shares the screen with Google ads for 50-80cc engine kits (and 35 mph) for as low as $109.</p>
<p>I like what Jeff S. said: &#8220;horrible solution to a non-existent problem&#8221;.</p>
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